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LJ Blodgett
March 17th 07, 02:21 AM
Used xponder still wanted.  LJ
NW_Pilot
March 18th 07, 05:31 AM
"LJ Blodgett" > wrote in message 
. ..
>    Used xponder still wanted.  LJ
>
Bite the bullet and get an AT165 slide in replacement! I have used a number 
of these in aircraft and they work great http://www.narco-avionics.com they 
do take more time to set code but are cheap about $1,600 and they are solid 
state.
Mike Spera
March 18th 07, 01:47 PM
> 
>>   Used xponder still wanted.  LJ
>>
> 
> Bite the bullet and get an AT165 slide in replacement! I have used a number 
> of these in aircraft and they work great http://www.narco-avionics.com they 
> do take more time to set code but are cheap about $1,600 and they are solid 
> state. 
> 
For another opinion, see Discussion at:
http://www.gtwn.net/~keith.peshak/NarcoProblems.htm
The 165 is discussed about half-way down the page.
Good Luck,
Mike
Ray Andraka
March 19th 07, 04:51 PM
Mike Spera wrote:
>>
>>>   Used xponder still wanted.  LJ
>>>
>>
>> Bite the bullet and get an AT165 slide in replacement! I have used a 
>> number of these in aircraft and they work great 
>> http://www.narco-avionics.com they do take more time to set code but 
>> are cheap about $1,600 and they are solid state.
> 
> 
> For another opinion, see Discussion at:
> 
> http://www.gtwn.net/~keith.peshak/NarcoProblems.htm
> 
> The 165 is discussed about half-way down the page.
> 
> Good Luck,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
Take Mr Peshak's opinion with a grain of salt.  If you look at 
everything you find online written by and about him, you'll find that 
he's a nutcase with an axe to grind with Narco because Narco cut off 
business with him. He was apparently trying to force Narco into enabling 
his tailight stuff that he put into the design despite Narco's not 
wanting it and FAA not permitting its use.  He got his panties in a 
bunch when Narco cut him off by finding another designer to do a 
clean-sheet design for the digital logic chip Mr.Peshak was supplying.
The AT165 and AT155 both work fine, and respond identically to AT155's 
using Mr. Peshak's design to all interrogation scenarios...they have to 
in order to pass the FAA's certification rules.  Narco had to 
demonstrate equivalence in the function of the two chips in order to 
make the change.  Furthermore, the modifications Mr. Peshak is 
recommending to enable his "tailight technology" are illegal 
modifications to the transponder that won't even get past a routine 2 
year transponder check.  As far as I know, the early and recent AT155's 
are absolutely identical other than the programming of the programmable 
digital logic chip that does the interrogation decode and reply 
generation.  That chip has nothing to do with the transmit power.
I have an AT165 in my airplane.  It has performed flawlessly throughout 
the Northeast and midwest for over 500 hours of flight time, and has met 
output level checks for the transponder tests each time it has been 
checked.  I'm very happy with the unit, and recommend it highly.
Al  G[_1_]
March 19th 07, 05:18 PM
Would a KTX79 for $800 work? We just pulled two of them out of a 210.
Al  G
"LJ Blodgett" > wrote in message 
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>    Used xponder still wanted.  LJ
>
Mike Spera
March 20th 07, 03:10 AM
> 
> Take Mr Peshak's opinion with a grain of salt.  If you look at 
> everything you find online written by and about him, you'll find that 
> he's a nutcase with an axe to grind with Narco because Narco cut off 
> business with him.  
> .stuff snipped
As I said in my posting, another opinion...
Good Luck,
Mike
LJ Blodgett
March 23rd 07, 06:13 PM
Thanks every one who answer! I do have a xponder now.         LJ
Ray ! wrote:
> Mike Spera wrote:
> 
>>>
>>>>   Used xponder still wanted.  LJ
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bite the bullet and get an AT165 slide in replacement! I have used a 
>>> number of these in aircraft and they work great 
>>> http://www.narco-avionics.com they do take more time to set code but 
>>> are cheap about $1,600 and they are solid state.
>>
>>
>>
>> For another opinion, see Discussion at:
>>
>> http://www.gtwn.net/~keith.peshak/NarcoProblems.htm
>>
>> The 165 is discussed about half-way down the page.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Take Mr Peshak's opinion with a grain of salt.  If you look at 
> everything you find online written by and about him, you'll find that 
> he's a nutcase with an axe to grind with Narco because Narco cut off 
> business with him. He was apparently trying to force Narco into enabling 
> his tailight stuff that he put into the design despite Narco's not 
> wanting it and FAA not permitting its use.  He got his panties in a 
> bunch when Narco cut him off by finding another designer to do a 
> clean-sheet design for the digital logic chip Mr.Peshak was supplying.
> 
> The AT165 and AT155 both work fine, and respond identically to AT155's 
> using Mr. Peshak's design to all interrogation scenarios...they have to 
> in order to pass the FAA's certification rules.  Narco had to 
> demonstrate equivalence in the function of the two chips in order to 
> make the change.  Furthermore, the modifications Mr. Peshak is 
> recommending to enable his "tailight technology" are illegal 
> modifications to the transponder that won't even get past a routine 2 
> year transponder check.  As far as I know, the early and recent AT155's 
> are absolutely identical other than the programming of the programmable 
> digital logic chip that does the interrogation decode and reply 
> generation.  That chip has nothing to do with the transmit power.
> 
> I have an AT165 in my airplane.  It has performed flawlessly throughout 
> the Northeast and midwest for over 500 hours of flight time, and has met 
> output level checks for the transponder tests each time it has been 
> checked.  I'm very happy with the unit, and recommend it highly.
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